So any software project on SourceForge.net will have an out-of-the-box, pre-configured TikiWiki with default installations to include SourceForge.net specific things. For example:
. Users will presumably not have SSH/FTP to their Tiki. Only web access.
14:39 hinojosa: I had thought someone sent you something on this
14:40 hinojosa: let me poke around behind the curtains here...
14:40 hinojosa: a few minutes please.
14:41 marclaporte: We just released 3.0 :-) and are ready to proceed
14:42 burley-sf: what's the DB that tiki uses?
14:43 burley-sf: and what's it written in — php?
14:43 marclaporte: php/mysql
14:43 burley-sf: is there a module/method for supporting HTTP basic auth?
14:44 marclaporte: yes
14:44 burley-sf: and some method of auto-creating users upon authenticated login?
14:44 marclaporte: not sure
14:44 burley-sf: should be trivial to add to the auth foo though
14:45 burley-sf: Sounds like it should be pretty painless for us — but its gonna have to wait for a few other hosted app changes first
14:45 burley-sf: we're in the middle of integrating hosted apps into the site proper so auth is handled uniformly
14:45 burley-sf: once that's done I know we're discussing what HAs are next in line
14:46 burley-sf: I can raise Tiki at that time as well
14:50 marclaporte: Thanks.
14:51 marclaporte: My goal is to make an out-of-the-box SourceForge profile (a TikiWiki specially configured for SourceForge) which is a slight adaption of the more generic Software Project profile ->
http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/SourceForge_Software_Project
14:55 burley-sf: that would be really neat
14:57 marclaporte: Is there anything for stats tracking? page hit counter in the Hosted Apps with does a bit like page hits on normal project pages?
15:01 marclaporte: in which case, we would put this web bug in this profile. So page hits on Tiki Hosted App would be counted properly without overhead for project
15:01 hinojosa: have you tried piwik?
15:01 marclaporte: a long time ago, when it had different name
15:01 hinojosa: we have that as a hosted app
15:01 hinojosa: from the implementation we have
15:01 hinojosa: you can use this for site projects
15:01 hinojosa: you should check it out
15:02 marclaporte: I will :-)
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15:04 burley-sf: Once the integration bit is done stats collection will be made simpler/better for hosted apps
15:08 marclaporte: are we looking at weeks away or months away?
15:18 burley-sf: I can't provide any sort of timeline and the only person who can is out of the office
15:18 burley-sf: I suggest you ping moorman
15:19 marclaporte: auto-creating users upon HTTP basic auth? (anything else I should prepare?) Do you have any docs/code/etc about a typical customization of a php/mysql app to become suitable for HA? (I'll start planning this aspect)
15:38 burley-sf: marclaporte: We haven't written anything up for the community yet — I was hoping to write something up to do a presentation about it at OSCON — but they rejected it
15:59 marclaporte: burley-sf: : sorry to hear that
Later that day, marclaporte & moorman had an IRC chat. SourceForge is working on improving the framework for hosted apps integration. When this is ready, SourceForge will evaluate other apps, including Tiki. No specific time-frame so we just wait.
14:58 hinojosa: all: Wikispaces deprecation is set for tomorrow at 8 AM Pacific.
14:58 hinojosa: Site Status (
https://sourceforge.net/sitestatus )
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15:43 marclaporte: hinojosa: hi!
15:44 hinojosa: marclaporte: Hello
15:44 marclaporte: how are you?
15:44 hinojosa: I'm well - thank you
15:44 hinojosa: and yourself?
15:45 marclaporte: excellent. I am in Europe for a 10-day Tiki coding sprint (we call them TikiFest)
http://tikiwiki.org/Tikifest+Workspaces+and+Social+Networking
15:45 hinojosa: nice
15:45 hinojosa: looks like you are in France?
15:45 marclaporte: yes, off to Barcelona tomorrow
15:45 hinojosa: excellent
15:46 hinojosa: I hope the sprint goes well
15:46 marclaporte: tks
15:46 marclaporte: I am a little surprised with WikiSpace change.
15:46 hinojosa: really?
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15:46 hinojosa: we posted this up on site status some time back
15:47 marclaporte: oh, not that way surprised
15:47 marclaporte: I must have read and forgot. But it is because all hosted app stuff is going to be more & more open source?
15:47 marclaporte: AFAIK, WikiSpaces is not OpenSource
15:48 hinojosa: we are moving towards using more facilites, as you note, in our hosted apps
15:48 hinojosa: at this time, we're deprecating Wikispaces for a number of reasons
15:48 hinojosa: we are offering folks migration paths to the existing hosted apps
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15:49 hinojosa: and if folks want and like Wikispaces
15:49 hinojosa: they can have that imported to Wikispaces as well
15:49 danielf: hi is someone can help me for intallins ajaxchat
15:49 marclaporte: yes, I read. Migrating wiki stuff is much more tricky that other types of apps. You guys must have been busy :-)
15:50 hinojosa: just a little...
15:50 hinojosa: danielf: Hi
15:50 danielf: hi hunojosa can you help me
15:50 hinojosa: danielf: are you looking to install that on your project web space?
15:51 danielf: yes i installed it but i have a problem i cannot login it always the same page coming back
15:51 hinojosa: have you read our Site Documentation,
http://p.sf.net/sourceforge/index for project web,
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project%20web ?
15:51 hinojosa: the key with such installations is that our web servers are read-only
15:52 danielf: not yet i go right now
15:52 hinojosa: hence, you need to make sure that files that need to be written are in the persistent directory
15:52 hinojosa: pay particular attention to that segment of the docs for this effort
15:52 hinojosa: I suspect this will help clear this up
15:53 danielf: ok but what i dont understant is taht i have do same thing on another sire and it work
15:53 marclaporte: hinojosa: so we are super-duper ready to have Tiki available as a hosted app. We'll even make a SourceForge.net profile (same codebase as usual but pre-configured to SourceForge-type projects)
http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/SourceForge_Software_Project
15:54 hinojosa: ah-ha!
15:54 hinojosa: we've been waiting for that , right marc?
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15:55 danielf: sorry i chashed i am back
15:56 hinojosa: danielf: I'm not clear on your comment about doing this on another site
15:56 marclaporte: well, I think there were some structural improvements on SF framework
15:56 burley-sf: marclaporte: I don't remember but did jacob contact you relatively recently or am I thinking of someone else?
15:57 danielf: ok i have two site and on each i have smf
15:57 burley-sf: if not, all you are really waiting for at this point is for us to document the porting process essentially
15:57 danielf: on first i install ajaxchat and every this is good
15:57 danielf: on the second site i have done smae thing but in can going in the chat room
15:57 danielf: i always come back on login page
15:58 elmuerte: is it just me or is the 'Feature Settings' (under project admin) page really slow?
15:58 marclaporte: We spoke in May, and I don't recall recent contact from Jacob.
15:59 burley-sf: k — I think he was going to, but he's not around to ask
15:59 burley-sf: I know we've discussed it
16:00 burley-sf: I suspect he'll be back in the office soon (today) — if so I'll talk to him for 5 and get back to you
16:02 marclaporte: super. Well, it's a good time now because our 3.x version is nice & stable now. And if the doc is out, we could do at the TikiFest during next 10 days