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!! Documentation
!!! Features
* Possible to have wiki syntax in the references below, which is useful for hyperlinks.
* Like Wikipedia, you have links to go from the text to the reference and back. {FOOTNOTE()}This is --not working as of 2009-02-13-- working as of 2009-08-12 on profiles.tiki.org, but has been tested successfully on another site with a more recent version of trunk.{FOOTNOTE}

!! Feature request
* It should be possible to have, as an option, the reference list in the template (I don't want to copy the  footnotearea plugin on each page).
** Or maybe this should be a wiki page template per category of page? (ex.: if a page is in a category X, it uses the a wiki-page template, and this wiki page template has the footnote plugin at the bottom)
*** Or a feature per workspace

!! Questions

!!! How can we make it future-proof so people may easily move to a tracker-based system?
It is possible to maintain these references in a tracker: ((Simple_Reference_Management)) to be able to eventually become a [http://dev.tiki.org/wish1825|Bibliography management system (references)]

!!! Should this be a specialized implementation of a more general "note" plugin?
The general note plugin could have ((doc:PluginMouseover)), ((doc:Pluginfade)) and ((doc:Pluginfootnotes)) aka cite/ref as descendants or [http://dev.tiki.org/wish1409|Signature and/or datestamp and/or approval-vote plugin/syntax]. If we do keep separate, let's try to use the same names for the arguments
!!!Should we have the references also available as a mouse-over?
And thus avoiding to scroll down and backup. References at the bottom would remain for printing though

{userlink user="jyhem"} It seems a good idea but after trying, I found it is a bad idea. The references are fully tiki-parsed. The class we use for automatic mouse-over is more limited to simple text. Plus, it splits between pop-up title and pop-up content after the first colon, which breaks the display of the mouse-over whenever there is a link containing "http://".
All in all, it makes things too complex. Having a referece which looks good in the footnoteare and also the mouse over would restrict the available markup.
Let's make mouse-over a separate thing from footnotes
!!! Should this have any link with anchor & aname plugins?

!!! Shouldn't we try to stay as close as possible to the MediaWiki/Wikipedia syntax?

Wikipedia uses{FOOTNOTE()} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Footnotes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Reflist{FOOTNOTE}:
{CODE(caption="Syntax uses by Wikipedia for references")}<ref>California State University 2007.</ref>{CODE}


Syntax currently in 3.0 to generate a reference:
~np~
{FOOTNOTE()}This is quite an interesting concept{FOOTNOTE}
~/np~

{CODE(caption="Syntax uses by Wikipedia to generate the reference list, with option to have 2 colums")}{{reflist|2}}{CODE}

Syntax currently in 3.0 to generate the reference list:
~np~
{FOOTNOTEAREA()/}
~/np~

!!! What other features from Wikipedia should we plan ahead for?


!! Related links
http://doc.tiki.org/PluginFootnotes
http://dev.tiki.org/wish1825
http://dev.tiki.org/wish1769
http://freshmeat.net/browse/1099/


!! A test
Wikipedia ''footnotes'' serve two purposes.  First, they are used to add material that explains a point in greater detail, particularly if the explanation would be distracting if written out in the main article.  Second, they are used to present [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/citation|citations] to reliable sources that support assertions in the main article.{FOOTNOTE()}Citing sources is important for improving the quality of Wikipedia's articles.  A key content policy, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability|Verifiability], says that any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, including any contentious material about [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLP|living people] and all quotations, must have a source. Unsourced or poorly sourced material may be removed from any article, and if it is, the burden of proof is on the editor who wishes to restore it.{FOOTNOTE} As explained at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citing sources#Adding the citation|Wikipedia:Citing sources], footnoting is one of several alternative ways to present citations.

!!More testing
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